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strangetomato Four of these things belong together. Four of these things are kind of the same. Can you guess which one of these doesn't belong here? Now it's time to play our game. It's time to play our game!
This is the same sim at different ages. Can you spot the inconsistency?
Also, can anyone explain this? Is it a flaw in the template design? That's what I'm guessing.
This is the same sim at different ages. Can you spot the inconsistency?
Also, can anyone explain this? Is it a flaw in the template design? That's what I'm guessing.
Bonus question: Which premade sims are the parents?
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Date: 2010-08-31 02:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-31 03:06 pm (UTC)These are sim bin sims, but that's my only clue. Good luck!
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Date: 2010-08-31 02:12 am (UTC)She looks like a Veronaville baby to me. I'm guessing Goneril is the mom, which would make Albany the dad, unless there is some sort of drama going down there. :P
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Date: 2010-08-31 03:08 pm (UTC)Nope, not Veronaville this time. I think the adult stage genetics are the ones to go by, since the other stages seem to be the "hidden" genes for one (or maybe both) of these premades.
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Date: 2010-08-31 02:31 am (UTC)But my question is what happened to the skin in pic #2, child (?); why does she have 'ring around the collar?
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Date: 2010-08-31 03:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 12:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 12:50 pm (UTC)It seems you've got your answer for the second question. ^_^
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Date: 2010-09-08 01:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-31 03:38 am (UTC)I'd probably guess Malcolm Landgraab for one of the parents but I'm probably wrong.
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Date: 2010-09-06 12:48 pm (UTC)Yeah, it's not Malcolm. I think, if anythin, his eyebrows are even worse!
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Date: 2010-08-31 05:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 12:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-31 05:17 am (UTC)As for the heritage I was never any good at seeing that. Like others have said, it looks like Goneril's mouth and Malcolm's brow, but it doesn't sound a very likely combination :)
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Date: 2010-08-31 03:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 12:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 02:48 pm (UTC)Thanks for the link!
Someone ought to make a list of broken pre-mades, especially playables but maybe also townies... Maybe I'll give it a shot. I'd say to put it on a Wiki, but the Sims wiki with all the character info on it has so many, many, many mistakes that if I started to edit it, I'd have a full-time job trying to correct it all. :P
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Date: 2010-09-06 05:16 pm (UTC)I'm not sure I follow you completely, but it sounds like you'd have to edit their faces for each age group? That'd be complicated. I'm willing to help out as much as I can. Just let me know if there's anything I can do. I have a decent eye for shaping features in BodyShop, if we'd need to work on them individually.
If you're going to test this, you should post about it so I can see what you've discovered! I'm really interested. ^_^
I think you should start editing the wiki! *pats on back* You obviously know a lot about the memories and such, having edited them.
The one thing that gets me about the wiki is their profile of Glabe Curious. They make it sound like fact, when it's really not clear that she was Glarn's wife (that I know of, anyway). What other things have you noticed?
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Date: 2010-09-06 06:06 pm (UTC)Each life stage doesn't have to be edited, but the face has to be recontrusted completely from scratch, using the fixed base templates (21/25). I'm not really much good at face-editing, probably because I never do it. :P I would love some help on that. I just need to figure out the best way to go about making the changes... I always prefer being able to do things outside of the game (read: SimPE) so I can keep the templates themselves as untouched as possible, but that seems like it's not doable in this case.
I'll definitely keep you and everyone else posted, though. :)
Hah, I wonder if I'd step on anyone's toes if I did? It's just all the little technical details that are off, and the various "theories" about things that are just made up... You know, when people just... saw random things in their own game when they played that sim, or made up some story around them, and then add it to the Wiki as if it were fact? I don't want fanfiction in my Wiki entries, dammit, I just want the facts (and the plausible theories).
And you're right, there's nothing that clearly says that Glabe was Glarn's wife, and the wiki article shouldn't present it as such. It does seem the most likely theory to me, though, and I added some stuff about it in the memories in my clean Strangetown, but that's just personal flavour - I did that in a few places (such as the Tricous' memories), 'cause well, I was mainly making everything to my own liking. :P
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Date: 2010-09-06 06:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 06:32 pm (UTC)Yeah, I'm just looking for the facts in the wiki, too. I also dislike the way they mix all the different versions together, including the consoles, when it doesn't make one coherent whole no matter how creative you get. The wiki should be organized by game version, if you ask me.
Most likely theory? Most likely theory?! *takes a deep breath* I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. :P Nothing I see in the story pics gives me that impression. But that takes me back to my point: it's unexplained, so there needn't be any definite statements made about it on the wiki.
So those memories are included in the Megahood? I'll have to keep that in mind so I don't check them and take them as fact. XD (I have my own half-baked theories on the Tricous, too. More like full-baked, even. Over-baked?) What other changes did you make to memories and how did you even know they were incorrect? Why even bother changing them? I'm mostly curious because I really don't give much thought to them in my game, aside from doing some backstory digging.
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Date: 2010-09-06 07:59 pm (UTC)I dislike mixing in the different games in the Wiki, too. I think the worst of this is the Landgraab family tree. Guys, it's not the same sims. Let it go.
Haha, what's your theory, again? I know some people believe she might be Glarn's sister, but she's not in the family tree, so that's why I thought ex-wife seemed more likely, given that she has the same last name and she appears to possibly have slept in the same bed as him in the first story pic (I disregard the fact that he's still pregnant in that shot - probably a quirk of an early game version). The memories are only Lola and Chloe remembering them breaking up, so you can just delete those.
I just wanted to give the Tricous SOME memories, because they only had some very crappy ones of each other dying, if I recall correctly. The story roughly goes that the dude (romance sim) who's married to the blonde sister cheats on her with Rainelle Whatever, and then she catches them and kills them both, then the whole family and herself. Makes a good ghost story. The lot is probably built on top of an old indian burial ground, too.
I didn't really add too much of my own stuff, in case I made it sound like I just made up a whole lot of shit and stuck it in there. :P It's mostly just very small things here and there, and mostly in sims that have little or no memory from before, like the college sims - now they remember growing up from child, for example, and a couple of them have a 'grew up badly' in there.
What I MOSTLY did is fixing a lot of things that were wrong, and by that I mean... the order of the memories, for example. Have you looked at the memories of anyone in Veronaville? Important things are missing, and what's there is all screwed up. Cordelia is somehow the youngest sister, according to Consort's memories, even though she's clearly the oldest (the heiress) and has the oldest children. Antonio doesn't remember woohooing his wife, even though he's got two kids with her. The Montys seem very confused about exactly how many children and grandchildren they have, and when they had them. And so on. And examples from other 'hoods: Brandi remembering Skip dying before Beau was born, which is impossible, unless she's got some sort of sperm-retaining special abilities. Promotions being linked to the sim instead of the correct career. Dina kissing Michael Bachelor while still a teen. Missing events, like sims not ever making out with their spouses ever, or remembering their first woohoo. There's like a billion things and I can't remember half of it.
I fixed it because I just wanted everything to be right, it wouldn't feel "clean" to me otherwise. I tried to make them as close as possible to what actual gameplay would give you.
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Date: 2010-09-06 08:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 08:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-06 12:56 pm (UTC)*giggle giggle gigglesnort* Now I'd like to see someone write a story where Malcolm/Goneril happens and makes sense. I'll bet it can be done.
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Date: 2010-08-31 05:21 am (UTC)She does look like a Capp, but Goneril and Cornwall both seem unlikely candidates as they have the eyebrows at adulthood, and according to my investigations, they do not have broken face templates.
I'm gonna go with Hal Capp (and... who?), because I know he has a broken face template, and he's also got those eyebrows as a kid.
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Date: 2010-08-31 03:15 pm (UTC)*goes searching*
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Date: 2010-08-31 03:30 pm (UTC)Matthew is fine, though.
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Date: 2010-08-31 03:36 pm (UTC)Upon inspecting her eyes I found that she's based on the borked template ...#21, I believe it is. The same one that Jared Starchild, the Ruben brothers and that gothy towntownie kid (among others) are based on. They are also all borked in the same way. The Ruben brothers get the elf features, while the others get face... 1? 2? features. I don't know why this is (elf or face 1/2), exactly, maybe it's got something to do with how EAxis created them in CAS.
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Date: 2010-09-06 12:54 pm (UTC)That's so odd. Is there any fix available? I'm guessing there's nothing that can be done to correct the premades affected in-game, am I right?
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Date: 2010-08-31 06:31 am (UTC)No clue on who are her parents, I'm not good at that -_-
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Date: 2010-08-31 10:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-31 12:30 pm (UTC)(I love the toddler face--such a mean looking little sproglet--I'm frightened)
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Date: 2010-09-06 12:58 pm (UTC)Baby will EAT you!
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Date: 2010-08-31 03:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-31 03:28 pm (UTC)The fixes are still really useful for all those new townies and stuff, though. <3 I'd go look but MATY doesn't respond at the moment.
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Date: 2010-08-31 07:10 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-09-01 10:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-01 03:34 pm (UTC)xD
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Date: 2010-09-03 01:17 pm (UTC)