Simsecret Discussion

[strangetomato]

Man, it's been a while since I've been so involved in a discussion in simsecret (about warnings for gay content, and how this contributes to homophobia vs. it being a legitimate warning for the "genre" of slash). I don't always jump into the fray of these debates, but gender and sexuality are the topics where I can't help but suit up and yell, "Okay, let's play ball!" :P Yes, you could say they are my pet isms, in the sense that they are the ones I am mostly tuned in to.

If anyone wants to toss out their two cents (or more) here, we can continue the chat. Feel free to discuss and debate among yourselves. Just keep it clean, folks.

ETA: After using the sports metaphor above, I ended up with Centerfield by John Fogerty in my head. Argh! It's like I'm stuck at a family wedding back home in The Cove (name of hometownvillage has been changed to protect the guilty). :P

And I've added a music suggestion to hopefully lighten the mood (and because my SO has amassed something of a Big Fat Gay Music Collection).

Comments

[leskuh.livejournal.com]

True! And I do agree with you. Personally I think we oughta not warn for sexuality at all. But if a comm is going to require a person to warn for slash, then it should be equal in all regards.

And a lot of times people will mention characters/ships in a header so I'm not sure why that couldn't suffice.

But yeah, warning for sexuality seems kind of... stupid. Since it IS such a grey area.

[strange-tomato.livejournal.com]

Yeah, exactly. The pairing would be more than enough information, or I also mentioned that, for sim stories, the teaser pic often gives you all you need to know.

And if it must be mentioned (and I don't think it needs to be at all), then do it for het too. I sort of like it when people warn for het, gay, etc. etc. all in one warning, because it draws attention to this very issue, and how it's unnecessary.

My original comment in simsecret (good for you for kicking the habit, by the way! :P It's still a guilty pleasure for me) was something to the effect of me not actually caring about anyone who would find homosexual content offensive ("Good enough for 'em!") and that they know where the back button is.

[leskuh.livejournal.com]

Curse you! I am now going back and reading through all the SS discussion on this subject for the week. Also, despite how harsh that first anon is in simsinthecity's thread, I pretty much agree with everything they're saying. ¬_¬

Also POOKLET MARRY ME. And you too Strange. OMG your thread in that post is just full of SO MUCH WIN.

This is a bit off topic but have you ever read "Rape Culture 101"? It's a really awesome article from a really awesome blog that essentially points out what a Rape Culture is and why it's problematic. Just mentioning it, because you talked about humorless feminazis and hating rape jokes and UGH the older I get the more serious about shit like that I become.

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/10/rape-culture-101.html

[strange-tomato.livejournal.com]

Sorry! XD And I agree that I have a bit of a crush on Pooklet's brain right now. Or at least her way with words. <3

I was involved in a workshop with Michael Kaufman recently (one of the founders of the international White Ribbon Campaign), and we talked about that at great length. I was nodding my head so much to nearly everything he was saying, and it means so much coming from a man (self-reflection for the WIN). By the time he got to "gender does not equal sex" I was about ready to ask him out for coffee (along with my SO, of course! ;)).

I will definitely read that article. Thanks for sharing! And LOL at feminazis! Yes, seeking equality and working to end violence against women makes us just as bad as Hitler.