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After thinking about Ripp's sideburns some more, and some fruitless searching, I decided to try my hand at alpha editing.






Everything is clearly labeled, to avoid confusion.




1. No sideburns

2. My alpha-edited subtle sideburns - I can only figure out how to make them in black. Does anyone know how to toggle the colour in BodyShop?

3. My sideburns, again. Shown in black, to illustrate how they would look if they matched up.

4. Maxis sideburns

5. Tyler's sideburns (from GoS)

6. Fanseelamb's pointy sideburns (included with the Rufus Wainwright sim)


So what do you think? They achieve the effect I want them too (less stylized, and more natural than the other options), but I don't know how to make them brown. I'm sure there's an easy answer that I'm somehow missing. Anyone?

Also, what could be sexier than Ripp?

Answer: Six Ripps.


 

Date: 2009-02-21 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dothesmustle.livejournal.com
I like number two. Maybe three.

With the color toggle thing, I usually start out with blond and go on from there since it's ~easier~ to recolor it.

Maybe you can try giving it a screen layer to make it lighter? That might make it weird and contrasty though. :\

Date: 2009-02-21 04:14 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (Default)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Two and three are the same, actually. They just have different hair colours. I'm glad you like it. :) Alpha editing is pretty cool for things like this.

Hmmm, that might work, but I can't access blond either. I hope I'm not just being really dense (though I wouldn't be surprised).

Yeah, it would be hard to get to brown from black. Why could it be blond?

I need to figure this out. *ponders*

PS

Date: 2009-02-21 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dothesmustle.livejournal.com
"Also, what could be sexier than Ripp?

Answer: Six Ripps."

That was a knee-slapper~ :P

Re: PS

Date: 2009-02-21 04:15 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippcartoonlaugh)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I know. See what I said? Har har har. *slaps knee*

Date: 2009-02-21 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingmike1224.livejournal.com
I like your style...not everyone has such heavy sideburns

Date: 2009-02-21 04:23 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (frances01)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Yeah, the Maxis sideburns are a little exaggerated, like most of the facial hairs. They're good for characters (mustache, anyone?). I liked the 'burns on Frances, but I prefer the wispier version with the "gelled rock" hair that he uses now.

Date: 2009-02-21 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zepheera.livejournal.com
I don't do much in body shop, so I've got no answer to your question, but I think yours are the best of the bunch that you've shown.

4 and 6 are to long, and 5 looks like he took a bunch of hair spray and combed it backwards.

Date: 2009-02-21 04:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thanks. If I ever get it worked out, I'll share the finished version.

I do like 5, but I wish it lined up better where it meets the hair. That sticks out a little.

Date: 2009-02-21 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swhedonberry.livejournal.com
I don't know how to toggle the color, but I do like your edits quite a bit. They look like the kind of sideburns that a really laid back guy would have. It's not so clean that it looks professionally done, but the guy still wanted to make an effort.

Date: 2009-02-21 04:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
That's good to hear. It's what I was going for, since Ripp wouldn't style them, but he also wouldn't trim them up perfectly neat. They would just sort of fade into his scruff.

Date: 2009-02-21 12:07 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] naughtydolphin.livejournal.com
Yours are nicely realistic looking, and don't look like they need a lot of work. Which suits Ripp nicely. Having sideburns because they start where you stop shaving to is more like him than carefully manicuring his facial hair each day.

Date: 2009-02-21 05:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I agree. It makes sense for Ripp. I hadn't thought about it before, but it works better for his character.

Oh, the effort we put in for the finest of details. It's worth it, though. Ripp gets a lot of face time, so I'll be happy I made the effort.

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Date: 2009-02-21 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dinuriel.livejournal.com
Nice job with those sideburns. They look A LOT more natural than the Maxis ones. Those Maxis sideburns have always kind of bothered me...

Yeah, all I can think of for changing the color would be to extract a brown hair using BodyShop, then use some photo-editing program to open the file for the sideburns and one of the files for the hair side-by-side, so that you can easily compare the color as you recolor the sideburns. There's got to be a better way, though.

Date: 2009-02-21 03:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I'll probably tweak them a little more before I'm finished with them. Once I'm happy with the alpha, all I need are the texture files for the other colours. Where could they be? I'm so baffled by this. Hmmm, maybe there is a way to open those files and switch them in SimPE. I wish I was better at using SimPE.

Yeah, there has to be a better way, I agree. That texture file is in the game, if it's used for the Maxis burns. Also, worked back from black to brown is going to tough. Hmmm. I'm going to figure this out. I'm determined.

Date: 2009-02-21 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjoshsims.livejournal.com
I agree with Doey, export the blond one and then use layers to color it (lucky Photoshoppers!)

And they look GREAT! I would definitely download them. :D I love how subtle they are, delicious.

Date: 2009-02-21 03:26 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Yes, but all I have access to is the black. If I could get a blond version, I could probably get the brown too, right? I have no idea how to switch to the other colours when creating the project with the facial hair.

Am I just missing something? It seems really weird that black would be the only option.

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Date: 2009-02-21 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 13066301.livejournal.com
I love those sideburns. They look much more natural than the Maxis ones. I'd definitely download them.

Six Ripps = WINWINWINWINWINWIN

Date: 2009-02-21 03:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thanks. If I figure out my colour issue, I will share them.

Heheh. What could be better than six Ripps?

Answer: Nothing.

Date: 2009-02-21 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simgarooop.livejournal.com

They look great! Much better than the base ones, which I don't use as much as I'd like because they are too long.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by toggle. You mean you want them to change color when you change the sim's hair color like all the Maxis facial hair?

If that's the case, you need to make four different projects for your sideburns (one using a red haired sim, another with a blond, etc. etc.) and work from there so you can compare the sim's hair with the sideburn.

Once you are done, you can bin them so they work like the base game hair. I use the WW because I have no idea how to do it with SimPe.

And I hope this made sense! O_o

Date: 2009-02-21 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjoshsims.livejournal.com
It's super easy to do it with SimPE, I bin AND family them there. There's a tutorial here. (It's by the Evil Wench of Demonic Evil Freshness, but eh, it works.)

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Date: 2009-02-21 03:22 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
When I go into the "create project" menu to select the sideburns, all the facial hair is shown as black hair and there's no way to select a different colour.

Toggle is probably the wrong word, but you know how you can select which colour hair you want to work with when creating a sim hair in BodyShop? Well, I couldn't do that with the facial hair. It was only giving me black as an option, and there was no way to switch to the different bin colours.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, and I'm missing a step. I should have access to the four default colours, shouldn't I?

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Date: 2009-02-21 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leskuh.livejournal.com
Oh wow, AWESOME. I-I do not know what I am feeling, but I actually think Ripp looks - dare I say - HOT. :O

I think this is the first time I have ever admitted physical attraction to Ripp? WOW.

Seriously, they look wicked awesome. I hope you figure out the color thing. *crosses fingers*

Date: 2009-02-21 04:19 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippwow)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Welcome to the club. I live here. :P

So he's not real... *shrugs* I can still think he's sexy, right?

The extra side detail does increase his sex appeal, I agree. Also, the abrupt end at the ear is a little odd now that I've seen a more natural version.

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Date: 2009-02-21 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meetme2theriver.livejournal.com
Ooh, I love them. :D Would very much like them in my game too, when you're done. I can't help with the colours, though. :(

Date: 2009-02-21 03:06 pm (UTC)
ext_122042: (Default)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thank you. :) I will share them when I figure out how to find the other texture files for the base colours. There has to be a way.

Date: 2009-02-22 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akatonbo.livejournal.com
One way that I know you can get access to all four of the textures is to export them in SimPE. Some info on that:

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=222643

Date: 2009-02-22 01:31 pm (UTC)
ext_122042: (beaurallyforth)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! I was thinking that SimPE was probably the only way to access those textures, but I didn't really know how to go about doing it. I'll take a look at this and see what I can do.

Again, thank you! ^_^

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