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I was playing around with BodyShop a little over lunch, and here's a work in progress shot of a potential PT.












Some changes have been made to facial structure, but it keeps with the theme of the original - thin cheeks, flat nose (though bigger and lower on the face), and thin lips (wider, and a different shape). I changed the eyes, and the shape of the brows, and gave her more chin.

I'll probably work on her some more, but I like how she looks so far.

Is there a way to change just the ears in BodyShop? I've only seen a way to adjust the entire face shape towards the elf template, but not just the ears.




Date: 2008-07-03 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abbycat900.livejournal.com
Awh! She's cute. I like her nose & eyes.

Date: 2008-07-03 05:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
It's going to be interesting to see how much nose variety I can squeeze out of a completely flat nose. I'm enjoying the challenge of it. I want them to all look very alien, but different too.

Date: 2008-07-03 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simgarooop.livejournal.com

Awww, she's cute! I like that her nose is slightly larger. That's something I never liked about the original PT.

If you ever need help coding the PT hack once you are done with the sims, let me know :)

Date: 2008-07-03 05:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I agree. I've never liked that nose much either, so I'm always happy when my alien kids have the sim parent's nose.

Are you sure you want to offer that help? *snicker* Hand-holding may be necessary. Your tutorial was pretty thorough, so I hope to just be able to follow that, if I focus my full attention on it. I'm going to be fearless. SimPE is pretty intimidating to me, but I really want to learn more about it.

Date: 2008-07-03 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simgarooop.livejournal.com

Sure, I'll hold your hand if needed :D. But I'm pretty sure you'll be able to follow most of it. Once you get it, you'll realize it's a lot easier than you think.

And since I learned that, I've been doing more experiments with SimPe and created contacts and default eyes and skins. Before you know it, you'll do all that stuff too.

SimPe might be intimidating... but I'm more afraid of Milkshake, Photoshop and all those graphics software. Now those are scary! O_O

Date: 2008-07-03 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixelcurious.livejournal.com
You can change the size of the ears. It's one of the sliders, maybe under the full face section.

Looking good!

Date: 2008-07-03 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I was too slow replying...

I do know about the ear size slider. I'm wondering about shape, not size. There's no way to change that for ears individually, is there? That's such a letdown. I'd also like to be able to adjust the angle of the ears to make them stick out more.

Date: 2008-07-03 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixelcurious.livejournal.com
Oh, sorry. I forgot you were trying for pointy ears. I didn't read your question well enough, either.

No, I don't know of a way to do that, without using the full face slider. Though I really wish you could. I'd also like to be able to choose the flat alien nose, instead of always having to start with a flat-faced sim.

And the ear angle -- how great would that be? You could make all sorts of cool ears without having to resort to custom ear accessories.

Date: 2008-07-03 05:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know I can change the size (and I made those just slightly larger), but is there any way to change the actual shape? There isn't, is there?

I want to just slide it to the pointy ears. I'm thinking the only way would be to start from the faery/elf template and then change the face, or use the pacifier baby generator in CAS with an alien face and a face with pointy ears, until you roll a sim with both. There has to be an easier way that that...

Thanks. :)

Date: 2008-07-03 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixelcurious.livejournal.com
Actually the pacifier worked really well for me. Thanks for the idea. I used the original Maxis pollinator plus a sim I'd already made, who had slightly less pointy ears than the usual template, and this was the result (well, the result I kept)

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Would that work for you? At least as a starting point? I can package him up right quick.
Edited Date: 2008-07-03 07:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-03 07:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Yeah, that would be great, if you don't mind.

I'm thinking that the less pointy ears would be nice, since I already have the Veronaville faery sims with the very pointy ears. I don't think fwiffo's PTs have ears that are completely pointy either. Jayne's ears seem more rounded than Bottoms.

I like that he ended up with a bit more chin too. :) Chins for the win!

Date: 2008-07-03 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixelcurious.livejournal.com
He's here, under the name pointy_pollinator.rar
http://www.jobsluder.net/pixelsims/sharedsims/misc/

Feel free to edit however you want. For my set, I think I'll change his forehead/brow a bit, and make his hair one of the other colors. But the chin does look good, doesn't it? Makes him a little different from the usual PT.

zipped pointy PT

Date: 2008-07-25 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hey pixel and bean... could you put up a version of him in .zip format please?

Thanks,
Unknown Doctor Person

Date: 2008-07-04 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themhooligans.livejournal.com
DAMN, he is HOT. I am starting to have a thing for Simaliens. I blame your Bean. :3

Date: 2008-07-04 01:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-03 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com
She looks great.

As for the ears, I think you can adjust the size of the ears. It's in the same area where you can make the eyes bigger/smaller (the area where you can go just to foreheads or noses or chins).

I know when I was making very slightly pointed ears, I had to toggle between the "full face" sliders and the "parts" sliders (so the face wasn't so elf, just the ears).

Date: 2008-07-03 06:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thanks. I wonder how much variety I can get and still have them alien looking.

Yeah, I know about the size thing, but there's nothing for shape of ears on their own, unless I'm missing something.

I think I'd have to start with that "pointy" template and work my way back by changing individual parts and not the ears. That's so inconvenient and backwards, and it would be way easier if only BodyShop had an option to change ear shape individually. Why didn't they include that? It seems like they should have.

Date: 2008-07-03 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com
Oh, no you can't edit the SHAPE of the ear, just the size. I bitched up a storm about then when making my self sim. I have very "stick out" ears but they're not really LARGE. There is no "stick out" option for sims.

If you're trying to get the gnarled ears, maybe take a sim that has them and use them as a template? Or you could breed sims in CAS and export their children back out and use the children as templates. Again, it's not the most direct route but it might make for some interesting results.

Date: 2008-07-03 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-illegal-x.livejournal.com
I've always had to start with the elf template and work backwards, like you said. I guess EAxis didn't think those ears would be so popular, or they forgot that slider.

Do you mind if I friend you? I love reading your entries.

Date: 2008-07-03 07:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I was thinking that maybe they just wanted those special features to be more special, and only obtainable through abductions and the Veronaville sims, like it is with the green skin. That would make sense, but they really should have included more shaping options in BodyShop.

Yes, of course! :) Add away. I might even get around to posting an actual story-type thing this evening, if all goes well.

Date: 2008-07-03 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dothesmustle.livejournal.com
She's so cute! I love the nose, I like that you kept the overall profile of the face.

I think everyone mentioned it by now, but in BS they have sliders for ear size.

Date: 2008-07-03 06:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thanks. It's a fun challenge to see how much change I can make, while keeping the face flat.

Yeah, they do have a size slider, but not anything for the shape to make them pointier. They are a number of things missing in BodyShop like that. It can be very limiting.

Date: 2008-07-03 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meetme2theriver.livejournal.com
That's so weird, only yesterday we were trying to make our own PT replacements and adjusting the hack to use them. It worked... mostly. But for some reason, the original PT (we kept him and added three extras) wouldn't show up in the family tree when he was the father (the black hair gave it away), but the other ones did! Except one time... Then our test sim had twins by the original PT, and one was linked to him in the family tree, while the other was not!

Very weird. This happened regardless of using the tombstone of L&D to impregnate them or having them summon aliens with the FT option. Interestingly, the debug - abduct interaction didn't work. Did FT bork it?

Anyway, we chose not to keep it in the game until we figure out why the family tree links aren't consistent.

I like your replacement, she's cute. :)

Date: 2008-07-03 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hidden-kitten.livejournal.com
For pointy-eared PTs (I made one that looks mothing like the elf template): You will need to start with the ponty-eared template and demolish/mutate as you wish. Recloning the sim is almost necessary.
I like her!

Date: 2008-07-03 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redqueenofevil.livejournal.com
She's looking good! I can't wait to see your other templates. :)

Date: 2008-07-05 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amaryssobellus.livejournal.com
I think she looks good. :)

Date: 2008-07-08 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I like that you made the nose lower, but but I"m not sure if I'd go wider too. you did say you still wanted it to look like an alien. also, pointy ears might be cool.

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