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Here's an update on my vampire skintone, with some of the changes I mentioned (darker lips, and smaller, more blended red eye area). I'd love to have your feedback on it.


 
 

 



 
 
The effect is a little odd on aliens, because it gives them defined pupil and iris areas. At one point I was messing around with a half alien and half sim eye (for Jill Smith) and it ended up looking exactly like this (minus the red). What do you think of this? It's less than ideal for me, but so are alien vampires with regular sim eyes, so perhaps it's a step up from that? The chances of me having a sim alien vampire is pretty slim, so it doesn't really matter to me, but I'm curious to know how everyone else feels about.

Also, Stella is wearing makeup, so some of the rosey hue of her lipstick is making her lips look warmer than it would be by default.








Date: 2011-03-27 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nepheris.livejournal.com
I really like the eyes on the normal model, but on the alien eyes it looks quite odd, I think. It's never bothered me that alien vampires don't get red eyes - the black looks spooky enough for me in that context.

Are the eyes and skintone seperate, or are the eyes included in the skintone?

Date: 2011-03-27 02:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Actually, the alien vampires will normally not have alien eyes. they the "human" sim vampire eyes instead, unless they have another condition on top of it, like the werewolf (which has an alien version). Luckily, the alien contacts can be layered over the vampire overlay, so this can easily be fixed. The aliens can even be given red alien eyes, like those Phobia coloured versions.

The eyes are included with the skintone. Were you interested in the lips without the eyes? I could make a blank version, too. I'm already planning to make contacts and lip makeup based on this work, so I can throw in a few other variations, if there's any desire for them.

Date: 2011-03-27 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nepheris.livejournal.com
I've just got a seperate vampire default eye replacement (one of phobia's, incidentally), which is why I got confused about whether they're included in the skintone or not. Not sure what's up with that.
Good going EAxis on messing up something like the alien vampire eyes -_-
I'd definitely be interested in the eyes seperately :) It's really cool that you can see their original eyecolour through them.

Date: 2011-03-27 03:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Phobia's version replaces the skin, too, she just uses the same skin as the Maxis version (it's all together in the game files). I'm pretty sure all creature defaults work this way, unless the skin has been edited out so that there's no change at all.

EAxis got wiser when they made werewolves. They actually have a slightly different version for every skintone, including one with green fur and alien-ish eyes for the aliens. Oddly enough, they went back to one size fits all for the plantsims.

Thanks's for your input! ^_^ I'll definitely be breaking it up into separate pieces of cc for maximum usefulness for different people.

Date: 2011-03-27 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixelcurious.livejournal.com
I definitely like the lips darker. Very nice!

Alien vampire eyes... totally a step up from having a white sclera all of a sudden. But it does look a bit odd. I think the solution to alien vampires is, as you said, contact lenses (and the Phobia red alien eyes would be the ones I'd use, too).

I should say, I don't really play with vampires in my game. I've only had them if I rolled a challenge that requires them. So the opinions of people who DO play with vampires should be weighted over mine. :)

Date: 2011-03-27 06:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Do you think I should go even a little darker? I'm torn. I might test it out and see.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the effect. When I tested out those half sim half alien eyes, I thought they looked creepy, and a little like snake eyes. If I were to ever have an alien vampire, I'd use contacts, for sure. And all my tinkering with the overlay will be in relation to regular sim eyes only.

Yeah, I'm the same way. The Tomato Legacy was my very first time playing with them, and also with zombies. The limitations do make things interesting, even if they're a bit of a pain! :P

Date: 2011-03-28 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixelcurious.livejournal.com
I like the lips as they are, but darker could work too... as long as it's not so dark it doesn't look red anymore. :)

I'm about to have a zombie for a challenge... going to try to have fun with it. ^_^

Date: 2011-03-27 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abstract-pixels.livejournal.com
I'm partial on the alien/vampire eyes... On one hand they accent that the sim changed their state and make them a bit scarier, but on the other the defined red circle looks strange on alien eyes (maybe some red flecks?). Too bad that EAxis made a whole body overlay for vamps :( .

I love the lip tint and the use of Phobia's eyes in general (I use her contacts for my vamps). I'd prefer a pale overlay than the blue to be honest :P . The blue makes me think of zombies... Maybe you should make a pale one as well :D ? Pretty please?

I am so looking forward to this (been searching for a good overlay for ages)!

Date: 2011-03-27 07:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
It does look strange on the alien eyes, I agree. It really is too bad that this is the only way to do it. If I need an alien vamp, I'm going to use contacts, for sure.

I've been thinking about trying more of a pale overlay, but it would require extra work, since I'd have to alter the entre Maxis overlay (currently, this is just a face replacement — pretty simple). It is annoyingly close to the zombie skin, and it looks quite purple on S4 and turquoise on the aliens, as you can see above. Not really all that vampire-ish. :P

Thanks! I'm glad you'll be interested in using it. ^_^
Edited Date: 2011-03-28 10:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-27 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simgarooop.livejournal.com

The overlay looks pretty nice! I like how it looks on Rainelle (who has such an innocent, doll-like face that it is almost creepy that she's actually a dangerous creature).

I didn't know that alien vampires had regular red eyes, but considering that, what you have is an improvement by far. I also agree that the red alien phobia eyes would be perfect for a vampire, so I guess that could be fixed with contacts.

Date: 2011-03-27 07:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Rainelle does make a rather interesting vampire that way, doesn't she? I imagine she wasn't really cut out to be one at first, but she had very little choice in the matter. Now she uses her innocent looks to lure people in. ;)

Yeah. That's basically my feelings on the matter now, so I'm not going to worry about it and will focus on the regular sim eyes instead. Thanks for the feedback!

Date: 2011-03-27 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meetme2theriver.livejournal.com
Rainelle looks awesome. :) If I switch to Phobia-edit eyes, which is likely, I'll definitely be wanting to use this vampire default.

The alien effect does look weird, but I think it's much better than the white sclera. In a very, very early legacy I did, one of my second gen spares married Stella Terrano, and she became a vampire at one point. The eyes really bothered me even then. :p But contacts is the best option, really.

Date: 2011-03-28 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenecorvino.livejournal.com
I like what you've done with Rainelle's eyes and lips. I just wish that the vamps didn't have that grey corpse look; lighter skintones yes, moldering ones no.

I like the effect you've made with the alien vamp eye, it sets them apart. Never noticed that alien vamps reverted to human eyes. Maybe because my last alien vamp was born with blue eyes.

When I first noticed your new banner I thought of Dr. Who's "Weeping Angels." Are you teasing us with some possible "Johnny" plot? It looks nice.

Date: 2011-03-28 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skellington7d.livejournal.com
I don't mind the alien-vamp eyes, it's better than suddenly human-esque eyes. People who want their alien vamps to to have the black eyes could use contacts, I mean they'd have to do that anyway. And my, what lovely turquoise skin!

(Half alien/half sim eye? That sounds interesting, although my first thought would be a white sclera with a big shiny black iris.)

I'm only playing two vampires (The Tricou son-in-laws, K1 and K2) but I haven't done much with them because my defaults are unsatisfactory. So I'd certainly be interested in these!

Date: 2011-03-28 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olivethegreat.livejournal.com
I like the new eyes and lips. I think the alien eyes look weird with the red, but it is definitely a step up from completely new eyes.

Date: 2012-01-05 01:21 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Gosh, these are darn nifty! I hope you finish them one of these days, they'd be perfect for my ugly vampires due to the lack of defaults that I like. :)

Date: 2012-01-08 04:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thanks for your feedback! I'm planning to return to these to finish them at some point (hopefully soonish). I have a new idea for the redness overlay that might solve the alien issue as well. We'll see how it goes.

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