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Oh, well. Looks like you win this time, Mr. Worthington. Next time, though, next time...




I tried, folks. I really tried.

(Well, maybe not as hard as I could have tried. I got bored and gave up. His nose was impossible.)

Date: 2009-06-25 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumnparanoia.livejournal.com
Poor Francis. He's nowhere near as cute as the Sims 2 version. Then again, Sims 3 doesn't seem to be able to create sims that look much like Sims 2 sims, really, except in rare cases like Johnny Smith where they have really exaggerated features.

Date: 2009-06-26 12:04 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (frances01)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
They'll never really match up because of the simplified angular structure of Sims 2 sims. The Sims 3 faces are much more rounded and human-like.

I really wish there were more options for fine-tuning features. They've even taken away some that are in the Sims 2 Bodyshop. I wonder if they ever plan to release a Bodyshop-type program. It'd give them a chance to redeem themselves in this area.

Date: 2009-06-25 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com
Yeah, the original is still the best.

The eyes on FranceSim3 look more shocked than sad/hangdog. And those eyes are (at least to me) what makes Frances Frances.

(and that hair reminds me of the episode of "Seinfeld" where Jerry gets the bad haircut that makes him look like an eight-year-old)

Date: 2009-06-25 10:24 pm (UTC)
ext_122042: (frances01)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Well, he IS actually making a schocked/appalled face in this picture (I gave him the coward trait), so maybe that's what you're seeing there. It's an exaggerated expression.

This is a more straight-up version:



Like I said, though... I gave up before really attempting to fine-tune him. I was working on this over lunch.

I would argue that his nose is his most defining feature, and the fact that it's not even remotely doable makes it very difficult to replicate him. I may try to see if adding one of those mods that changes the slider contraints would help matters.

It's amazing how poor the selection for hair is in this game. I guess maybe they want to sell us the "good stuff" later in the Sims 3 Store.
Edited Date: 2009-06-25 10:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-26 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com
I wondered it he was deliberately making big eyes (in the first pic).

Honestly, if I didn't know your affinity for Frances, I'd have a hard time guessing who that sim was supposed to represent. To me that's a sims3 "thing". All the sims really do look a bit alike. Or rather, you have to WORK to find something to tell them apart (there are very few who stand out--like that albino family, they're a sims 3 Ottomas clan from what I can tell).

*scowls* That sims store thing still really rubs me the wrong way. Yeah, you can get the stuff without paying but it's just so off putting. But that's the nature of the beast (I think that's why I've never gotten into WoW and stuff like that, seems you get nickel and dimed to death with them).

Date: 2009-06-25 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simsinthecity.livejournal.com
I wouldn't be surprised if he was making that O.O face from looking in a mirror and seeing how odd he looks. If you couldn't do it, EA had better not try to make Frances for an EP unless they have more options for faces in that EP.

Date: 2009-06-26 12:00 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (francesbeau)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I really hope they don't remake any of my favourites, especially not in a Don Lothario "time travel" sort of way. I'm not a fan of prequels, but I actually see it as a bit of blessing in disguise.

Date: 2009-06-25 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franwi.livejournal.com
HA! He looks so HAPPY there. Guess he's not ready for the world of TS3 yet? I gave it a go, too.
FrancesTS3 Pic 1
FrancesTS3 Pic 2

Date: 2009-06-25 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dothesmustle.livejournal.com
oh my god, that's really good. 8D Propz

Date: 2009-06-25 11:54 pm (UTC)
ext_122042: (frances01)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Now I know how Cain felt. ;_; You favour her Franny offering over mine.

Date: 2009-06-25 11:48 pm (UTC)
ext_122042: (frances01)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Great job. You certainly have some of the fine details down better than I do. Your nose is much better, though maybe it's a little thin? Franny has very large features.

I'm finding it hard to get things to match up between the two games, so often I make up the difference with my own idea of them in my head.

His eyes are looking a little Nervous-esque in your version.

ETA: By thin, I actually meant narrow. The thinness is spot on.
Edited Date: 2009-06-25 11:57 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-25 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franwi.livejournal.com
Franny has very large features.
Teeheehee... yeah, my mind went right into the gutter. ;)

Date: 2009-06-26 12:01 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (cultofrances)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
VERY large. The largest of all sims.

Teeheehee.

Date: 2009-06-26 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjoshsims.livejournal.com
You are all dirty. The Benevolent One would be ASHAMED, I say.

*gigglesnortsnicker*

Date: 2009-06-26 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xel-squirgle-ox.livejournal.com
Who knows? He actually might be flattered that they think so. ;)

That man is FILLED with surprises.

Date: 2009-06-26 01:48 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-26 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com
Yeah, that nose is looking a lot more Franny-esque.

But there's still that mushyness to the face (that's a sims3 thing). Like the cheeks are always a bit too fat and the face too rounded.

Or, I'm just a "purest" *snicker*. Really, seeing my favorites made into sims3 form is kind of sad. (I'm with strange on the prequel thing--I prefer to make my OWN prequels using sims2, not see mushy sims3 versions).

Date: 2009-06-26 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xel-squirgle-ox.livejournal.com
I thought about trying to make him too, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Though if I did make a really good one, I might end up being a little freaked out.

That facial expression is SO him though! XD

Date: 2009-06-26 02:07 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (cultofrances)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Heheh. I totally gave him traits that would make him make fearful and worried faces all the time.

Date: 2009-06-26 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjoshsims.livejournal.com
Aww, poor Franny. I love his outfit though, it's so him. And what traits did you give him?

Date: 2009-06-26 02:08 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (frances01)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Thanks. Franny rocks the black and dark purple/navy. (In the game his name is Franny Pants, by the way. :P)

I believe it was snob, neat, unlucky, loner, and coward. Not the same as my first thoughts, but they seemed like they'd be good for a lone Frances in my hood.

Date: 2009-06-26 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjoshsims.livejournal.com
Oh no, Unlucky would mean that he was always dying, the poor thing.

I agree, Franny loves his dark colors. *nods wisely*

Date: 2009-06-26 02:36 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (frances01)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Wait... he'll literally die? Mulitple times? I don't get it...

Date: 2009-06-26 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjoshsims.livejournal.com
It raises the chances like, exponentially. So he'll die when repairing electrical objects or doing ~dangerous~ things and the Grim Reaper will be all "LOL IT'S OKAY I LIEK YOU." Unlucky and Loser Sims can only die from Old Age.

True Story.

Date: 2009-06-26 09:27 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (francesbeau)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
LOL - so they're like Kenny from South Park? Or like a Looney Tunes character?

That's terrible, yet funny at the same time.

Date: 2009-06-26 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjoshsims.livejournal.com
I'm not sure, but apparently doing dangerous things is not safe for them, as they will always die and always come back.

Date: 2009-06-26 01:08 am (UTC)
ext_122342: (Writing)
From: [identity profile] sadieg79.livejournal.com
Piece of advice: get Awesome mod from MATY, use the online config to customise how you want. Make sure, however, that the following are enabled:

CASSliderScaleIncreased - Increases range of CAS facial sliders by CASSliderScaleMultiplier (up to 5x; the option to choose is underneath)

NoSmilingInCAS - Stops that idiotic smiling in CAS, so your sims will look more like how you made them.

They're a godsend for making unique sims, trust me ;)
Edited Date: 2009-06-26 01:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-26 01:32 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippsims3)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
I already have the awesomemod, but I don't think it's working in my game. I don't recall seeing any smiling (I defintely chose that option - what a dumb idea), but the sliders don't seem to be any better.

Maybe I'll have to try downloading it and installing it yet again...

I swear I've done it at least five times.

Date: 2009-06-26 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xel-squirgle-ox.livejournal.com
I've downloaded it too, and I don't think it's working in mine either. D:

Date: 2009-06-26 02:05 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippsims3)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] ownsimscorner provided a lovely explanation for us, below.

It seems you just have to turn it on. XD

Date: 2009-06-26 01:50 am (UTC)
ext_122281: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ownsimscorner.livejournal.com
You have to type "setconfig CASSliderScaleIncreased true" to make it work. It`s great because you make really extreme features that would have been impossible with the original scales.

Date: 2009-06-26 02:04 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippsims3)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Ahh, so that's how it works.

Seems I forgot to Read The Fucking Manual. Heheh.

Thanks for the tip! ^_^

Date: 2009-06-26 06:28 am (UTC)
ext_122342: (Writing)
From: [identity profile] sadieg79.livejournal.com
Or you could just enable it permanently in the online config tool ^_^ Try setting the slider multiplier to 3x, maybe more if you're not noticing any difference - I have it set to 3x, which I'm finding to be ample.

And yes, you have to keep re-downloading - he updates it really frequently. You need to delete the cache files every time to notice any change, maybe that's what you're doing wrong?

Date: 2009-06-26 09:18 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippsims3)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
OKay, so that should enable it permanently? Hmmm... I'm not sure why it doesn't seem to be working.

I'll try deleting the cache. I don't think I've done that the last couple of times I've played. Since they're different files than in Sims 2, I'm not into the routine of it yet.

Thanks for that reminder. ^_^

Have you posted any pics of your more unique sims? I'm sure I've seen the results of this mod somewhere or other, but I don't recall anyone saying, "Hey, this sim was created with the new sliders."

Date: 2009-06-26 09:46 am (UTC)
ext_122342: (Writing)
From: [identity profile] sadieg79.livejournal.com
No, but I can do so if you like :) It'll have to wait 'til around Mon though; I'm away for the weekend, leaving in a few hours :D

Oh, if the mod doesn't seem to be working, a good way to test is to enter "showconfig" (without quotes) in the cheat box. If you get an error message, it's not installed properly.

Date: 2009-06-26 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabid-cupcake.livejournal.com
*delurks momentarily*
I tried making Franny, too....I'll post pics momentarily...

Date: 2009-06-26 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabid-cupcake.livejournal.com
Ok, here we are...

Eins:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheesy-cheese/3662293294/
Zwei:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheesy-cheese/3662293446/

Sorry about my over-usage of the word "momentarily." ;D

Date: 2009-06-26 09:24 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippsims3)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
!!!

No, really! !!!!!!

He's WONDERFUL! *gestures to others* Everyone! Come here and see this!

His nose and his whole upper lip/mouth area is perfection. You should be very proud of this effort. (Did you use the new slider settings? I wasn't getting anywhere with the nose, so I gave up, but you captured it perfectlly here.)

Can you share him? Pretty please?

You even remembered the sideburns. ^_^ Though I must say, I'm really not a fan of the Sims 3 facial hair (and the stubble is awful). The sideburns don't even seem to meet half of the hairlines. That was a problem with Sims 2 as well, but quite the same way.

But yeah... !!! I must have this Frances for my game, if you're willing to share him.

Date: 2009-06-26 09:48 am (UTC)
ext_122342: (Writing)
From: [identity profile] sadieg79.livejournal.com
Wow, that's great work! I know how limited the controls are, so this is just amazing what you've managed to do :D

Date: 2009-06-26 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com
WOW!

Seeing your Franny makes me have hope that sims 2 folks could be re-created (and look good) in sims3. You really got all of his features (the profile with the lumpy nose REALLY shocked me).

Bravo!

(and I'd also love to see any other sims3 re-makes you have)

Date: 2009-06-26 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aledstrange.livejournal.com
Wow! He looks awesome! <3

Recreating sim2 is very hard with sim3, so far I've failed miserably, except for Nervous Subject XD (who came out nice imo)

Amazing job there!! :D

Date: 2009-06-26 09:30 am (UTC)
ext_122042: (rippsims3)
From: [identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com
Also, it's nice to meet you! ^_^ I'm very happy you chose to delurk. Don't be shy.

Perhaps this will be the start of your Sims 3 sim recreation career? You're obviously very good at it.

Seriously, I'm still excited about your Franny.

!!!

FJW & BB

Date: 2009-06-26 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My Frances sucked too. Although I do think my Beau came out okay.

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