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Strange Tomato ([personal profile] strangetomato) wrote2009-08-13 05:42 pm

Sims 3: Bitching and moaning

Wow. Just... wow.

From the The Sims 3: World Adventures Q&A on IGN:

The Sims 3: World Adventures offers a whole new way to play that we've never done in a Sims game before. We're utilizing the opportunity system introduced in The Sims 3 to take your sims through a whole variety of different adventures. You can start by talking to a local merchant who will send you off to find a keystone that unlocks the treasure chest to get into the secret chamber and so on. You aren't just picking up random tasks--you can follow and participate in a story. Each location offers different back stories and secrets to uncover. We're also working on a much more interactive exploration system in our tombs and catacombs. The player will need to solve puzzles to get from room to room--you can't just click in the treasure room and say "Go Here" anymore. Using your sims' skills, special items and figuring out a puzzle will be how to get through the multitude of areas we've set up for you to explore.

Sorry, but if I wanted to solve puzzles to get from room to room, I'd play a Legend of Zelda game. They're MUCH better at it. I hate to whine about this yet again, but seriously... what the fuck?

[identity profile] peasant007.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooo. So if I get everything right on the puzzles, I will get awesome XP and Phat Lewt...wait.

Nevermind, this is a Sims game. Silly me.

[identity profile] aledstrange.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
:/ I was thinking pretty much the same while reading the article there (just replacing 'Legend of Zelda' for 'Riddle of The Sphinx' lol). Putting in sims term, it sounds more and more like a "Sims Life Stories" than anything else.

And that bit about the Base camp?? WTF!!?? "Your sims will start out at a kind of "base camp" and will have to earn their way up to being able to have a local home to travel to." What?? O_0

Also, hated the comment about players wanting the game to be more realistic every time. I mean, in part is true looking at the average CC, it does tend to be on the realistic side, but still players want to be able to build and play as they want, not to follow pre-established storylines.

They are just not getting it! :|

[identity profile] meetme2theriver.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
An all new game by Rod Humble: An Adventure in MISSING THE POINT.
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[identity profile] cindyanne1.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Please.forgive.all.the.periods...the.spacebar.on.my.computer.doesn't.work.anymore...new.computer.on.the.way.though,lol.

ANYWAY...

I.love.questing.games.with.the.best.of.them...but.I.really.have.no.desire.to.reinstall.TS3.any.time.soon.It's.so.sad.to.me,because.I.did.look.forward.to.it.so.much.:(

[identity profile] lalalaleigha.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Inspired partly by your outstanding storytelling, I recently went out to my local video game retailer and stared at the Sims for a while to figure out whether I wanted to buy 2 or 3. (I've been looking for a new narrative tool for a long time and it looked like a hell of a lot of fun to use the Sims. It certainly is. :] )

I ended up with 2. It looks like I made a very good choice.

I'm really not sure what else to say except that I am shaking my head at this news. Part of what I like about the Sims is that it's not nearly as restricted as games like that. Except now, apparently, it is.

you can't just click in the treasure room and say "Go Here" anymore.
But isn't that sort of elemental to the Sims?

[identity profile] pnkpnthr334.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I was looking forward to getting TS3 when an EP came out, but I definitely don't want this. If I send my Sims on vacation I want them to be able to experience all, not have to unlock every single location. I want to just say "Go Here" and have that be that. I don't get why they're making TS3 more complicated than it needs to be. It's a simulation game, not a puzzle solving, adventure game.

[identity profile] samethana.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I removed TS3 off of my computer within less then a week from getting it. I already gave it to my friend's daughter because she just doesn't have a clue about how a sims game is supposed to be and she really wanted it. I do not regret it one bit. I have been reading articles about it and looking at everyone's pretty pictures, and the one thing I like about it is the scenery. I don't like the look of these sims or the gameplay one bit.
I hope that everyone will boycot EA by not buying this ep so they will wake up and finally see what we actually want and need in our games. (I for one could still use some ep's/sp's for TS2 as I'm hanging on to that one)

[identity profile] wtsims.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Y'know, I like adventure games. I like them a lot. I lament the fact that they're long past their original heyday and would be really happy to hear that games reminiscent of the Myst or Gabriel Knight or Journeyman Project were making a comeback.

The Sims, however, is not supposed to be a friggin' adventure game. It's supposed to be a life simulator. Apparently, EA has managed to forget this.

[identity profile] simsinthecity.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
What?

That's about all I can say without building on what's already been said. Life simulation games and adventure games are like boys and girls on the playground — except for the occasional "sissy boy" they don't mix! There are going to be people who won't buy this because of these things you've mentioned, but adventure gamers won't buy it either if they don't like the traditional Sims gameplay.

As for the no-Go-Here thing — I'm absolutely fine with not having access to secret lots (though I've never really needed them for anything yet), so TS2 (and even TS1, to an extent, if you ever worked the beanstalk) didn't really bother me in this way. I wasn't "hungry" for any of those things because the "food" wasn't sitting right in front of me. But now it will be. Know what I'm saying?

[identity profile] an-nas.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I pretty much agree with what everyone has said.

When I first heard that there was going to be The Sims 3, I thought we were getting an improved, more developed The Sims 2. Now it's obviously been clear for quite a while that I was wrong, but this is just so stupid, I don't even know what to say. They're just doing it SO WRONG.

I also thought I might reconsider re-installing TS3 when EPs start coming out, but looks like that won't be happening.

[identity profile] silentsteel.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
They're trying to turn Sims into an MMORPG. BLEAGH.

[identity profile] will-o-whisper.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if they're going to throw in bits of all sorts of other games into the sims, I want an expansion where we get to lead an army of llamas bearing grilled cheese banners into battle against the evil cows. I might actually buy that. :P

[identity profile] simnovoris.livejournal.com 2009-08-13 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm already pretty bored with S3, it's duller than S2 and not only because it's just a base game (although partly because of that since well, the game's not overly exciting in itself and feels like being stuck with the S2 base game all over again) but because things are just more one-dimensional. Pudding-faced strangers all around and I don't feel that anyone of them has a story.

Started S2 again for the first time in forever today and the only thing I really miss from S3 is the open neighbourhood. It's brilliant. But the rest. Nah.

And I love games that aren't simulation. I'm currently sacrificing sleep in order to roam the Capital Wasteland of Fallout 3 or kicking alien ass in Mass Effect. It's not that I only want to decorate my little dollhouse (or whatever gender biased crap they're believing about sims players) but Sims is about stories, a surreal version of life with all its little things like getting love letters and throwing birthday parties. You can't have that in Fallout. :)

I feel sometimes that the general idea behind all of this is that it's not good enough to be a "girly game" (ie a game with a large amount of female players). Which is just sexist bullshit.

[identity profile] pixelcurious.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I was hoping the expansions would add neighborhoods. I was hoping, of course, for Strangetown. Oh well!

[identity profile] elizabeth-becks.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I barely like the Sims 3 on its own, now this crap. I have a rubiks cube that I need to solve and that's more important than this new expansion pack.

The Sims 3 on my laptop runs slower than all of the Sims 2 games that I have and I have every one of them. Imagine what this crap expansion would so to my poor laptop.

I seriuosly thought I found crap games that belong to my brother, now I have found one that takes its place at number one of shite games.

I think I've finished my rant.

[identity profile] themadmaiden.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm starting to consider uninstalling my sims 3. It's just not as fun.

And that expansion pack...wow. That's about all I can say.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-14 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, am I the weirdest person ever? Because this sounds like wicked fun to me. I always wanted the Sims to combine the whole "customize everything" shtick with exploration and adventure someone BESIDES the same boring old neighborhood (I was one of those kids who took their dolls out of the dollhouse and played with them around the house.)

[identity profile] garnet812.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
My husband bought me the Sims 3 and I think I might have played it maybe a week. I kinda feel bad because he bought it because he noticed I didn't have it. I really did tried to like it. The scenery is awesome, I love the customization for everything, and the traits are cool, BUT I just could not get into the game. I do not like the way the sims look, and I miss my VAMPIRES alot. I love Sims 2 because I get to create the world I want my sims to live it. I have a certain styles to each of my neighborhood and the Sims 3 just seems too vanilla for me. I know it's just the base, and creators are making leaps and bounds everyday in making custom content, but it just does not live up to my expectations. I guess that I wanted Sims 2 with better graphics, control, and traits. And then I see the expansion pack and I just know I will never play Sims 3 again. Sims do not need scavenger hunts and puzzles and BS like that. I thought the whole concept of the sims was so that we could control what happened and what our sims do. Puzzles have NO PLACE in this game. I'm really sorry for the rant and taking up so much of your space.

[identity profile] amaryssobellus.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
This is the death of Sims as we know it.

RIP The Sims. You had a good run while it lasted. :/

[identity profile] poppyperson.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
OMG. What were they thinking? Come on, we play puzzle games for puzzels we play virtul world's for sims. Now I have to admit, when I first saw the sims 3 I thought COOL! I do have lots of problems with sims 2 (Like my game can't take custom content) but now...

WHAT IS THE SIMS COMING TO?

[identity profile] petchy-14.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
*Smiles*
I honestly liked the "Stories" games.. And wasn't everyone saying that the game would add very little to the "real" game unless it featured tasks to be done? And a Reward for it?
Including a Stories type thing sounds actually wicked for me - Hollidays were dull and boring unless there was an actual ~reason~ for them being there.

However, from a storytelling point of view, it seems that thats got to be the worst choice.. but what about just sticking to TS2? TS3 for me is something to go in hand with TS2.. not an "heir to the throne"
I say let them be different, noone wanted an exact carbon copy of "Bon Voyage".. did they?