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Ummm... what?! (A slight legacy-related problem)

I'm really blowing this legacy thing, guys. Like, really, really effin' it all up. Well, for one, I'm still playing, and it's supposed to be done on Friday, but I think I can get it all together by them. It's really near the end. But... well, I'm doing something a little unconventional, and making my own judgement call on how to work it. I think it all still works out fairly by the rules, but I've had a last-minute "oops" and I'm wondering what to do.

Okay, I'll cut right to the chase. Some of my potential heirs are plantsims. I assume it's "legal" because the ideal plantsim is Maxis stock, just like the PT. The way I made it fair from a character development point of view, is to have the plantbabies born much later than the other candidate for heir (who was a teen before they were sprouted). I decided to allow the plantsims to continue to linger on as adults until the "normal" sim became one. I figured it was only fair that they could continue to live and develop their stories too, since they have such a short lifespan from toddler to adult (though, obviously, they have a clear advantage in the skill point department, so I'm not intentionally skilling them much).

So that seems fair, right? If not, well I've blown it already, but we'll just have to deal with it.

The REAL issue here is this:

Freakin' Ira Inada. (Cool name, though.) He's the sort of modified Face One, Michael Stipe look-alike cowboy who gets summoned out of the magic wishing well to be your sweet little baby boy's true love. Oh, and his BABY DADDY too. Cy was a TODDLER only days earlier, and I had no idea he was gay (he wasn't set, so the well decided for me... or maybe it was ACR). I completely forgot that I added the Preg For All Genders hack for the purposes of alien and half-alien breeding, and, well, I really didn't expect Cy to TRY FOR BABY his very first time.

They weren't even in love yet. o_O

But his secondary aspiration is family, and he seems to have had a 62% chance of wanting to try for baby. Did I check that? No. Did I remember that I set the risky woohoo at it's max level? No. (Not that it mattered. I NEVER get the risky woohoo babies. It's always the sneaky "try for baby" ones.) I wasn't even thinking about him getting mpreg, because I haven't been playing with that hack in place much... at least not with many same sex couples, so it didn't come up.

This is what I get for trying to be clever and using plantsims, but I really wanted the pointy ears and Nyssa didn't get knocked up by any of the townies I generated that had them. I even had that gothic fairy downtownie guy, but she didn't meet him. So plantsims seemed like such a good idea at the time.

So... what would you do here? I love the twist, and the sim breeder inside me refuses to just abort the pregnancy. It might be a bit much to try to work into the story, but I'm sure I could (the story is WAY convoluted as it is, so it should fit right in). Do you think this is okay, as long as the baby stays behind? I think I could make it make sense.

Or... I could let him have the baby, but keep it completely out of the story and "official" legacy entry.

Advice? I'm all ears.

P.S. Ira Inada is one of those extra downtownie templates, so you could spawn one of your very own, if you like him. Watch out, though. He has those sneaky "creep out of the well and impregnate your innocent plantsim" ways. And he rocks a cowboy hat like nobody's business.

Yessir... ACR sure does make things interesting.

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Well, you technically blew it when you installed ACR, since you're not meant to have any mods, so I don't see how a male preggers by a townie would be a problem at this point.

And yes, plantsims are perfectly legal - in fact, if you're playing for points you'd score for black sheep on that one. Hell, alien heirs are allowed if the "mother" is the previous heir. Although since you're using mods, you wouldn't be able to keep score anyway - and besides, isn't the legacy challenge just another way to keep the game entertaining for us?

I wouldn't worry about it. Except maybe trying to decide who to use for the next gen heir, since you seem to have quite a few choices now... ;)

There are so many legacies that have ACR, so I don't think having it in the game isn't considered cheating anymore. Anyway, it wouldn't matter anyway since I know damn well that

music_simbol has ACR (and inteen?) and she did a generation for this round robin legacy too. In that case, if having ACR is actually cheating, these people blew it a long time ago. :P

And of course I meant I don't think having it in the game IS considered cheating anymore.*

No, ACR is okay in the rules for the Round Robin legacy. We're not playing for points, but the rules are strict about breeding and things like mods that offer an unfair advantage in any way, aside from ACR. I still have annoyance hacks and things like that too, but I overlooked the preg for all hack. Since I was working with a straight female heir, it shouldn't have been an issue. Then this happened.

I still have only three options for heir. There are more children than that (and now grandchildren)... but only three legitimate heirs.

isn't the legacy challenge just another way to keep the game entertaining for us?

I would say yes, but I'm sort of required to follow the round robin rules (if I was playing just for myself, I'd be a lot looser). I was doing so well too. I was pushing it, in places, but everything was mostly by the book up until now.

Edited 2008-11-19 23:38 (UTC)

This really, really does make things interesting. I have NO idea what *I* would do.

So, Cy is the Plantsim baby of Nyssa? *squee*

Honestly, I don't think it would be far to whoever's next in line if the heir is already pregnant, but it would make a cool story twist. But I think Cy shouldn't be in the running for heir. Is that an option? *checks*

Oh, then keep his baby for your SEKRIT purposes and not let it make it into the Official Chapter.

and, well, I really didn't expect Cy to TRY FOR BABY his very first time.

He made a pact with all his toddler friends to get pregnant, so that they can have ~unconditional love~

I think either way seems fine. I don't really what to say, haha. ~braindead~

Yeah, that's right. Cy's her son.

I was thinking more like he'd have the baby, and then move on as heir without it (leaving him/her behind with Mom and the rest of the crew). I wouldn't send him on pregnant, since thet would be hard to work out anyway. This would just be like a past thing, just like a teenage romance, except slightly more complicated.

OR... I could just pretend it didn't happen. Have him move on, just like the other three potential heirs. He might not get picked, either way, but letting him have the baby gives him a more detailed backstory. I don't know if that really matters, though. The next person can choose to ignore it, or explain it away, or they might even want to work it into their own story as history.

It's hard to know what to do, because I really didn't see prenancy as something I would have to contend with here.

So you're thinking secret babby? I could do that, and it would be less drama heaped on drama. This story is all over the place as it is. :P It's been a fun ride, but what a mess.

They're plantsims. They just sprout babies and spores of happiness out all day for a laugh. He just thought it was all about babies, I guess.

Do plantsim babies that are created the traditional way come out as plantsims or normal sims? It will be interesting if the baby is "normal." It will also make it easier to explain why Cy wouldn't have the baby when he moves on. It fits my story logic, but I won't go into details just yet...

I thought about how funny an all plantsim legacy would be. It would take five minutes to do, every heir would have the same personality, all the skill points, and after a couple of generations everyone would probably be clones of the ideal plantsim, unless there were some really strong dominent facial features that lingered on. I think it would be funny.

Edited 2008-11-20 00:01 (UTC)

Ooo, once I hear you say it, I think it could work. He could just explain that he did get pregnant, but he didn't have the baby. It could work like that, even if his eventual SO (if he does get picked) would be freaked out by it.

Or he could have it. *shrugs* Either way works.

Yeah, ACR has been allowed for this, and

music_simbol definitely used it in her chapter.

Keep the baby. It allows you/the person after you to explore prejudices. After all, with being a supper natural sim, being gay, and being a pregnant dude (let alone recent adult and first time), other sims are sure to look at him a little funny.

Whoever plays next should have the option of deciding if the baby goes with him or not (so long as, of course, the baby is not considered a legal heir).

I think you should give the other potential heirs a chance too, despite Cy having a baby already. I mean, we haven't even seen them yet. I think one of the things that makes this type of legacy fun is the reader participation, and if Cy is automatically heir due to ACR being silly we wouldn't be able to have that.

Yeah, or he had it, but left it behind with his mother to raise when he decided to go out and go to college or whatever. Something like that happened in my own family, because the mother was really young. The grandparents raised the child, and she even went off to college and everything.

If Cy was picked as heir, the next player could even have the kid from me as an extra character that could show up later, outside of their own thing, just for the story of it (not as an heir candidate). It would be interesting, if they wanted to do it. It depends on how much of a link they want to the past generation, or if they want to make a clean break. I didn't have much left after the last gen. (which went out with a bang), but I've still made reference to it. It's interesting to do that.

Then again, maybe it's too much baggage for an heir to come with? I could just keep it completely "off the books." (I'm letting him have the kid, though. Even if he's never mentioned. :P How often do you get something like this to happen in the game? It's very cool.)

I don't like aborting simbabies. Which is funny, because I'm prochoice in real life. *the irony*

Twist is great. Keep the babby! And keep it in the storyline. It will be...interesting. :D

Yeah, they do. Jenny Smith's plantsim son in

cindyanne1's Supernatural Asylum also had a baby (LOL thanks to ACR too) and it came out normal.

That's what I'd like to do, I think, but I'm going to let him have the baby before he leaves (there'll be just enough time). I don't want to give away the reasons why, but there'll be a good story explanation (in fantasy terms) for the baby to be left behind.

Yes, I agree. The baby could even be a character for the next player, if they want to do that, but he/she wouldn't be an heir candidate, because that's not fair.

Cool. That's what I assumed. How exciting. And the genetics of Mr. Inada should go nicely with Cy's. The brown competes with the dominant black, and the grey eyes go with his recessive green (I'm pretty sure that's what he has - I took a look with SimPE).

Gotta love ACR. :D

Oh, I didn't intend it to sound like he's automatically heir. Did it come off that way?

No, I meant that he'd still be in the running, but no more likely to move on than the other two. His unusual story might give him a little bit of an unfair advantage, but I'll just have to try to get something really interesting out of the other two now to match him, while I still have time. (THIS STORY IS CRAZY.)

Oh, there will be an heir poll, don't worry. I do need Cy to be in it, though, because I only have three potentials (unless I sprout another plantbaby). I have more than three children, but some can't be used as heirs.

Edited 2008-11-20 00:21 (UTC)

ACR is fun, isn't it? My family sims are always autonomously trying for baby too; sometimes I don't even realize what's happening until I hear the lullaby, and then they have to have a shotgun wedding right then. If I had pregnancy for all, I'd probably have babies coming out my ears.

ACR can set sexual preference, but only if you explicitly tell it to (one fun thing to to do is to have it randomly roll the whole neighborhood; college gets really interesting when the dormies all have set sexual preferences). Did he maybe inherit his mother's preference, since he was spawned?

I feel the same way. Actually, I'm pretty sure I would never be able to abort a baby in real life either (depending on the situation, of course), but I still consider myself prochoice for the most part. I do think that everyone should be able to decide for themselves.

Sim babies, though... how could I deny myself the fun genetic surprise?

Yeah... I like the idea of doing that, and I think I can leave enough of an "out" for the next player if they don't want to touch that backstory at all. It's nice to know that other's think it's okay too, so I don't leave everyone in a big WTF moment at the end of my entry. :P

I only put the Preg for All in recently, for someone in my prosperity hood, and I really did completely forget about it, since it hasn't been relevant at all yet (thankfully, college kids can't get preggers).

Oh, really? I didn't know that. I was wondering if it randomly assigned it. There's a setting for that somewhere, though, right? You can decide the percentage of different sexualities, I think.

My dormies are always half gay anyway, I swear. I think it's built in by Maxis.

The idea about inheriting the mother's preference is interesting. They are alike in most other ways (but not zodiac or hobby, or a number of other small details).

That also makes sense, him leaving the baby with his mother. I had something like that happen with my cousin- he got a girl pregnant, and the girl's parents left the baby with his parents while my aunt was pregnant with twins. It was srs.

That would definitely make for some delicious plot action- the kid showing up to meet his father and other siblings.

IF Cy is chosen and IF the person after you wants to do it, it will be awesome. Although I do agree, he does have some serious baggage that someone else will be forced to deal with.

Oh, I am only being hypothetical- IF Cy was chosen as heir, it would be interesting to see. I don't even know if I'm going to vote for him. :P

I've checked a ton of dormies' sexuality and I think all of them start out as having no gender preference at first. I guess that's why they always seem half gay, since they can be very easily swayed one way or the other.

But all sims are supposedly like that, and yet I see way more same-sex heartfarting in uni (before they even flirt with anyone). Is there something in the air that sets preference? Is one of the uni interactions secretly set gender preference? Maybe it's the ventrilo-fart. :P

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