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Strangetown Extras: Ripp is no longer a slut?

Wow.

I don't know what to say.

Ripp: What?! How DARE you, you harlot! What are you trying to do?

Three Lakes lady: Kiss you up the arm?

Ripp: Ummm, no.

Three Lakes lady: Not even just one?

That looks like a no, dear. (He's so cute when he's haughty.)

Seriously, I have NEVER seen this happen in my game. It amuses me greatly.

Could Ripp really be that serious about Ophelia? I mean, she's quite sexy in that bikini, but this is just surprising game behaviour. Maybe he just doesn't want any distractions from watching Phi get all wet back there?

Three Lakes dude: Good job, Ripp! I really admire you.

Ripp: Umm, okay. Sure.

That guy actually admires Ripp in the sense that he blows hearts for him. Sames goes for the teen male that's log rolling with Phi. The ACR randomizer seems to have made a lot of gay males in Three Lakes, and Ripp is going over very well there.

And yes, this does mean that I'm (finally) working on the next update again. I hope to get something up pretty soon. I've decided to split the last part into two sections, not because it's long, but because it will be easier for me (yes, I'm buying more time - real life has been busy lately).

Have a nice day, all! ^_^

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I imagine Kent might've been molded by the ways of his family. He has three sisters, all of whom managed to find men who would take their last name. Consort is the same; his "maiden name" (IDK what it's called for a male) is Thebe. Then again, not everyone becomes gay for power.

I don't quite know how I feel about homosexuality, but my philosophy in the game is this: The Sims 2 is a life simulator. Homosexuality happens in real life. Thus, The Sims 2 must have homosexual people.

Well, actually, the Capp Line is matrilneal- heirship is passed down through the females only, and the men HAVE to take their last names. It's not by choice. :P

/hijacking

I think the trouble would be finding a man who would want to submit to that.

Maybe. But they're CAPPS. I'm sure men throw themselves into it to be part of a prestigious, srs bsns, rich family like that.

Want for money > want for "dignity through keeping one's name"

Good point.

Or...

As I like to think of it, maybe it's a cultural difference and that's just how it is for everyone in West Veronaville (the other side of the river obviously operates differently). Then it's not something that the men have to submit to at all. It's just how it is there. In my mind, the Summerdreams follow this too, with Titania as the head of the household, and Puck planning to take Hermia's name. It would be yet another point of (cultural, this time) contention between the Montys and the Capps if Juliet and Romeo marry. I can't remember if Romeo is heir to the Monty "throne" (aka llama ranch) or not, but Juliet is definitely the rightful heir of her branch of the Capp family.

It's funny how you mention losing dignity in this context, since that's how it has been (and still is, in many cases) for women in our culture when entering into marriage. Does the reversal make this more obvious?

I really like how Veronaville turned that whole process on its head in the Capp family. (Well, I WOULD, right? :P Feminist alert!)

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I JUST HAD A REVELATION.

You know the play, Romeo & Juliet, right? Well, at one point, Juliette tells Romeo to "deny [his] family, renounce [his] name."

It's a Capp thing! Wow, for a bunch of people we all hate, EAxis isn't too bad about coming up with these things.

YOU DID! :D

That has to be why they did it that way. It makes perfect sense. I still like to think of it as being cultural, since they've set up the hood in two sections - these micro-climates that resemble (Shakespeare's) England and Spain/Italy (or some other Mediterranean country - I'm not sure) respectively. It makes more sense that the Capps just doing their own thing to me, though that would work too. It's open to interpretation, I suppose.

Veronaville is quite clever. It's not a literal interpretation of Shakespeare's work, but there's a lot of "wink and nod" stuff in there. I really like it.

I think it might be a Capp-only thing, since the Monty males keep their last names.

The real Verona is in Italy, I think.

I was thinking about why EAxis chose Shakespeare, and R&J in particular, for a whole neighborhood. Well, there's drama, of course, but I think it's also a subtle tribute to TS1. Remember the music that would play when two Sims kissed?

It's called Romeo and Juliet, by Tchaikovsky. How fitting.

I wonder, is there a hack out there that would let a couple keep their last names but still be married?

Not that I know of. There's one that let's you choose which name to take, but that's it. I really wish someone would create one that lets you enter the surname for each spouse individually at marriage, leaving it open for separate, combined, and new names.

Coincidentally, my SO and I are currently "fighting" to have our names combined in marriage, but without an hyphen. It seems to go beyond what they accept as a marriage-related change (meaning we'd have to legally change our names - not a good option). With same sex marriage being legal in Canada, I think they need to open their minds to other options. The time has come.

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I totally agree. I always imagined that Puck would take Hermia's name and that that's just the way it WAS.

And yes, Romeo is the heir to the Monty Ranch, and Juliet is the heiress to the Capp throne.

That's not how her name is spelled, is it? What's it in the game? Julliete? I can't remember.

It's Juliette.

Ahhh, yes. I knew it was something like that.

Joshy is the smartiest! :D

MY SOUL!!!!! Where have you been?!

I spent basically all of Thursday packing. Friday we moved me and my sister home, which is pretty much an all day thing and I cleaned my room all yesterday. I'm actually still cleaning. I'm such a pack rat and I've got all this JUNK in my room and no place to go with it.

Whatchu been up to?

Oh wow. I'm a packrat too, I have notebooks from YEARS ago. I save everything. D:

Nothing much, soul child. I'm typing up post now about all the things I want to do and then I'm going to go play TS2. It's been a while since I played.

It was because of you mentioning it that I first noticed that, since I hadn't really examined the family trees so much. Good for you for noticing!

That's such a cool detail, don't you think?

I know! I love it. I noticed when I was doing the research for EPL. I find it so fascinating that the men would go through with it, too, so I assume it's for the money. Or for love, whatever. :P

You really think so? It seems like it would be a cultural thing to me, and the men would just do it out of traditional, like the reverse of our culture.

But I suppose that would still apply to anyone from outside of Veronaville, or even the other side of the river (like Romeo - excellent example).

I kind of floundered on it for a while, but I agreed with you somewhere up there. I do think that's just the way it is over there. It does seem like a very cultural thing right? I read some interesting things about how people see women as "dominant" or "ball busters" when they either don't change their last names or add hyphens to theirs. Apparently, society hasn't evolved all that much.

SOURCE

Yes, and cultural things are often misunderstood by outsiders, so you can still have the whole "marrying for money" angle, or general reluctance to it. It's a very interesting thing to have in there.

Haha. I'm actually following that. I read feministing.com and I have a couple of Jessica Valenti's books, so it's fun to see her getting married and trying to shed some of the same shitty archaic traditions that we did and getting flack for it. People at home view the So and me as something of a novelty and oddity. When we drive home, they always ALWAYS ask "So who did the driving?" because apparently, it's really odd to share the task. XD

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