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Strange Tomato ([personal profile] strangetomato) wrote2008-02-05 11:49 pm
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Strangetown: outtakes and reflection

It's that time again!

We've come a long way, plotwise, since the last outtakes post. We've had a couple of deaths, Nervous is now free, and we're safe from Olive's reign of terror (while Circe's is just beginning). Then there are the clones, oh the clones! Jill kissed both Ripp and Buck (those Grunt boys are nothing but trouble, I tell you), and we finally see the truth about Buck's romantic leanings. And yes, we ended with Ripp taking one for the (opposing) team. I mean the aliens, of course (what sort of teams are you thinking about?).





Warnings: Language, sexual situations (the usual)


First things first...




Just had to make sure that we got that out of the way, so we can all relax. *grin*

I'm just going to launch into this with photos from a really funny example of the glitch which freezes a sim's face on one expression. This glitch has been plaguing some of my photo-shoots, like the Smith dinner party (which took a lot of effort to set up each time, adding to my annoyance). But really, it was all worth it for the day that Ripp's face got frozen in the most pissed off expression you're ever seen on him!




Ripp: If you don't laugh at this, I'm going to fucking KILL you!

He's SO angry!

So angry, that he can't even be brought around by a pillow fight with Buck. He's fighting to kill! I have no idea how his face even got like that, since he rarely gets angry during normal gameplay (almost all of the angry scenes in this story are forced with some tool or mod). It's usually either laughing or crying with Ripp, so this is really weird. Maybe he was arguing with Tank. That seems to be the only explanation. I took a bajillion photos of this, but they're all pretty funny, so let's do a montage.




Ripp: You're going down!

Buck: Oh yeah? We'll see about that...














And yeah, they sometimes use pink and purple pillows... you wanna make something of it?! (Don't mess with Ripp!)

Also, tickling is no laughing matter!








Ripp: I hate you.

Buck: It's funnier because you're so angry.




Clone sighting!




Hey... wait a MINUTE! The clones have no gender preferences. They shouldn't be set yet. What does Ripp DO to attract these sims, exactly?!

This next one is for those who who have suggested that there might be a "more than friends" thing developing for our trio:




Ripp, Ripp, Ripp...

I know that the Johnny thought balloon is a popularity sim thing, but I know what that LOOKS like, don't you? *snort*

Johnny and Ophelia consider some ways that they might make such an arrangement work out for them.

The hearts sure were flying in Strangetown, as usual.




Tsk tsk tsk... Dirty old men. (Or, in this case, a man-like creature.)




Ouch!

He's really checking out the situation there. *snicker* That "check armpits" thing that the slobs do always cracks me up anyway. Just take a shower, you dirtbag! Also, that's one limp wrist you have there, Ripp!

Okay, now take a deep breath...




*stares blankly*

No. Just no.




And this just became The Graduate, only far worse.

How does that ridiculous song go? "Johnny's mom has got it goin' on..."




Ripp quickly reminds me of his true preference in the room.

Ripp: I WANT!!! Givehertomenow!

Too late, Ripp! You have Jenny all worked up now.

And then we have Buck, who really wanted to spill the beans about his crush on Jill. Really, really badly.




Buck: Damn, woman! That is one HAWT dress!




*sigh* Does everyone have sims that are this horny? And watch out, there, Buck! You seem to be throwing your shoulder out. That's one serious pelvic thrust!

This next thing is so cute that I nearly died.




Awww! *smile* I didn't tell him to do this, either. He had just finished puking his guts up in the bathroom, and he headed next door to play dolls with the toddlers. I've come to find that Ripp is really good with babies, even as a romance sim, as long as you don't want him to change diapers. (But really, he just loves playing with dolls.)






Ripp: Come on, now, Jolene! Stay focused! This is serious business...

Jolene: *munch, munch, munch*

Toddler cuteness overload! Eating dolls! And Jordan strolling around in the background! Isn't Ripp sweet with the babies? Maybe he'll have some of his own one day in this story. Maybe. *wink*

Speaking of that puking scene...




This always struck me as one of the more reasonable fears in the game. I know that I really do fear throwing up! For the sims, it seems to be mostly a romance sim thing. Poor Ripp. What do I put him through... (He was InSIMed to have food poisoning.)

Ripp: This was a bad choice...

Wasn't that a gross toilet? It just happened to be clogged at the time, lending a nice filthy Trainspotting sort of vibe to this scene.

Remember how Ripp "noticed" Jill as she got up from the dinner table? Well, he wasn't the only one...




Yes, indeed. Buck really does like what he sees! Tank is even showing some mild interest. Mr. and Mrs. Smith, I would suggest that you tell your daughter to put on some more clothing. Like a large sack that will cover her from these wandering Grunt eyes.

Nothing but trouble.

Next we visit the Beakers.




Circe: What are YOU looking at? Never saw an angry pregnant woman before?!




Yeah, I wonder what's wrong with her too. Hint: Her ass is on fire.




Pretty random, but I've never seen this happen before. The wolf gets sprayed! Teehee.

Now, let's see some clones! Just another little peek.




Meet the clone family! You know that I was just dying to get them out of the sim bin. And here they are after they arrived at the Beaker's place...






Everything seems pretty normal here, right? (The girl's hair was different because I deleted a download, and had to re-download it and fix it).




Yeah, Loki, you're right. You may be crazy and misguided, but for the clone thing, you are pretty cool.




But you might want to reconsider that one. Look at Circe back there. She did so much complaining about her aching back! And Olive is just here to kill them.

And no set of Beaker outtakes would be complete without...




A flying vehicle. (Just like their logo says!)




Nervous: I'm outta here! Later, Circe! Have a nice life.

Now, let's move on over to the Specter place in that cab with Nervous.




Nervous figures out who's calling all the shots.

I didn't know until recently that Nervous Subject begins the game with a preference for males, but clearly, it is true.




And Nervous thinks that Ripp Grunt is a pretty smoking hot romance sim. (And the maid likes him too. I just knew that no straight man would wear that outfit. *snicker*)

Now, I found this so amusing (and so very unlikely in both the story and the game, since they have almost completely opposite personalities), that I just had to get Nervous to make a pass at him to see what would happen. Ripp really SHOULD reject him, for a variety of reasons (including a low relationship score, at this point).




But, as you can see, Ripp never passes up an opportunity. Never.




I love that reaction. It's labeled the "sleazy" reaction in the hula mod, which I think is appropriate.

Ripp: Aaaaaaahhhhhh, YEAH!




Ripp: Okay, so I don't usually go for guys, but maybe just a little hug...

(This move was an autonomous one for Ripp, by the way.)




And Nervous clearly gives off mixed signals.

Nervous: Errr, no thank you.




Ripp: WTF, Nervous? Why you so... nervous?

Nervous: Just please... respect my boundaries! No means no, Ripp.

He's just confused, Nervous. Nobody ever says no. Nervous Subject: the unattainable holy grail of sims. Now, please wipe that entire fiasco from your mind. It really, really didn't happen. This, however, really did happen...




Ripp is SO useless. He spends all of his time doing crap like "talking through bear", pillow fighting, watching television, and taking baths.

Oh, and also making out with the random drop-ins at college. I think he may have even gone for the cow mascot, but I missed a photo op. Some sims will autonomously clean the house, or do things to build skills, but not Ripp. Well, he'll go to his guitar to play, but that's IT.




And he always finds the comfiest chair to relax in.

At one point, I let things get out of hand with the ghosts, and this happened.




And yes, Pascal is more concerned about Johnny's poor hygiene than the fact that he's dead. He's DEAD, Pascal! Your nephew just died, and that's what's bothering you?!




Even more innapropriate, Pascal! Please try again. (Poor smelly, grieving Ripp!)




Not that much better.

And Ophelia had sunstroke on top of it all. Needless to say, I did not hit save after any of this (I often don't after I do some of these shoots anyway, since I have to ignore things like having sims go to work for long periods of time and InSIM the time of day, etc.)

Ripp and Ophelia were just devastated by Johnny's death. It made me really sad. Ripp did give up crying to go take a shower, but other than that, he was doing it nonstop. And Ophelia lost her mind. Very sad.

Speaking of that shower, though...




Ahhh, yes... that cleanses the palate nicely after that awful scene.

Yeah, I'm objectifying you again, Ripp. I'm sorry.

Ripp: It's okay, just give everyone my number, and we're even. *makes "call me" gesture*




Nervous helps Pascal deal with this terrible tragedy, by giving him the most unique massage I have ever seen! Yikes. Glitches freak me out sometimes.




A penny for your thoughts, Ripp. What a weird expression! Someone has to think of a good caption for this. I'd imagine he was thinking about what Stella told him, but this happened before that. *snicker*




This is how I got those shots of Ripp whining at Johnny. I told him to go clean up the place.




Did you know how I got this expression and pose from Ripp? (I really thought this was quite a good one.)




Yes, a nice game of fetch with one of the many stray dogs. His own idea, of course. When I noticed the expressions, it was too good to pass up. You never know when something will work out for you like that with the freewill on.

Ripp and Pascal's first real conversation was priceless.




Ripp: So what's it like being abducted?




Pascal: Well, it's super! All of the fun, and none of the commitment!




Ripp: Sounds AWESOME!




Ripp: Almost as great as eating a big icecream sundae!




Pascal: Well, actually...






Pascal: I don't like icecream.

Ripp: WHAT?!




Ripp: What kind of deviant are you, Pascal? I just don't trust a guy who doesn't like icecream!

Pascal: I have sensitive teeth?




Pascal regains his "good uncle" status by congratulating Johnny on his good grades.




He's not really even paying attention, though.




Ripp wonders if all the icecream is going to his hips.

A little random one now, from Ajay Loner. To get a reaction from Ajay and Erin, I had her reject him for a make out on the couch. Have you ever seen this?




The sims being rejected gets their ass handed to them! Look at him flying through the air! *snort* Nice undies too.

Now a few more fairly random ones involving Jill and her fantasy(ies).




Yeah, she's likes that too.




I had a number of unused photos for Jill's Ripp fantasy, and this one turned out really sweet (which was obviously not what I was aiming for in that sequence). It makes a nice little gift for those of you who like the idea of Ripp and Jill together, though. ([profile] 80sfiend - Does this work for you? Hmmm? *smile*)

So there you go.

On a seriously random note, while I was shooting this scene I also wondered who Ripp's perfect match really is from a chemistry point of view, so I called the matchmaker, just for a laugh. (I may try to do this again with a few other characters too.) I asked for a female.

This is who he got:




o_O

The look on his face says everything, really. They aren't related, of course, since she's not really there as a resident as much as just a storytelling tool (and, as his mother, there are personality and aspiration compatibilities), but still... YIKES! Ripp just crossed a serious Oedipal line.




I hope that's a goodbye handshake. (And don't worry, it soon was.) *snicker*

Back in college, here's a "hidden scene" with Tank and Frances. (This is especially for [personal profile] music_simbol)






I'm pretty sure that this took place in Frances' mind! *grin* Pajama pillow fight!

We also have plenty of crazy antics in the home of Johnny, Ripp, and Ophelia, but let's start with a truly frightening one.




These are the things that nightmares are truly made of. *shudder*




Ripp: HI JOHNNY!

Johnny: Oh hi, Ripp! I didn't see you standing right there in front of me. I made us some pancakes.

Yeah, they're still at it.




Yep. That`s them, alright.






Get a hold of yourself, Johnny! We get the idea, already. He is completely out of control.

But do not get the wrong idea...








Johnny: Excuse me, Mr. Cow, but NO. I don't think so!

It ain't quite that easy to get into Johnny's pants, as he was quick to point out to the cow mascot.

The message didn't quite get across, however, which eventually led to this...










That's what you get for messing with Johnny - Wait... WTF? Johnny has something like 9 body points! Who's in that cow suit, anyway?

They are always thrilled to see the cheerleaders, though.








Especially Ripp.




He's baaaack!

Johnny: Oh dear god! More nudity!

Llama mascot: I'd hit that.




Ophelia swoons over some sort of Johnny-Ripp hybrid. It's like Johnny with a Ripp mullet. The bubble was actually flipping back and forth between the two. Is this another sign? *snicker*

After our last outtakes post, there was some discussion in the comments about potential Johnny/Ripp chemistry, and I didn't think that they had any, since even when I had them fall in love temporarily to make a number of scenes possible (the bathrub scene, the "carrying Ripp" scene at the club), they showed no chemistry. It turns out that it is due to the number of hetero interactions that Ripp has performed, making him uber straight, at least in game terms.

I decided to check it out on a more even playing field, so I set their male and female attraction to maximum with InSIM. The result is a double bolt attraction, which is the same as Johnny/Ophelia and Ripp/Ophelia. There is a reason they all make such good friends. They have excellent chemistry.

My experiment led to an advanced version of the heartfest that I showed you last time, and it's definitely good for a little "alternate reality" giggle. This is what it COULD be like, if there really was more to this than friendship.

(With a wink and nudge to [profile] pixel_and_bean. Finally, a little Johnny/Ripp action for you, if only hypothetical.)




It all starts out as a typical dance contest, but watch how things progress.






















Did that seem familiar to you, [personal profile] madame_ugly? Like another trio that we know?

Next up we have Ripp's encounter with Stella. But first a little scene from the abduction at the beginning of the chapter.




Bella: Hi Genesis!

Genesis: Hi Bella!

Oh no, it's spreading...

Let's head to the Wasteland Lounge to see how Ripp and Stella are doing.




One of Ripp's lovers decided to come and congratulate him on the stellar job he did of taking her virginity. He has quite a few of those under his belt now.




Stella actually was talking about sex with Ripp, which amused me.

And wait a minute... who's that at the bar behind them, ordering a drink? Oh yes, that's ME! *snort* Seeing your simself as an uncontrolled sim is really funny. Of course, I only dropped her at LFT a couple of weeks ago, but she gets around. Went right for the bar too, I see. She's me alright.




Actually, I'm a pretty big nerd, as you can see here. (Why would I go to the bar to do my assignment?!) From this angle, and with the concerned, furrowed brow, she really looks quite a bit like me.

I was concerned that she might meddle in this scene, and she did do a little meddling.




For starters, she's just saying hi to one of her favourite sims. (And I think that Stella's considering her for her research too... score!)




Then she gets hot for Gunnar. Oh, come on, simself! I would so NOT do that. (Notice how platinum Ripp is back there! He gets around and he just loves it!)




Wait. What are you doing?! NO!!! Leave him alone!




Tsk tsk. Autonomously molesting Ripp. Am I surprised? Are you? Well, you can't argue with chemistry (2 bolts, baby!). And they did hang out, so they're pretty good friends. (Who am I kidding... my simself's as slutty as they come.)




I hang out with them sometimes, outside of the story, just for a laugh. This really brings me back to my time at university.




I was also way too cool to let this secret society girl admire me.




And so was Ripp. Poor girl couldn't get a break!




More sleazy Ripp. I thought this was funny, but it didn't make the final cut because it didn't match the mood of the scene.




Here we go!! Fasten your seat belts.






The next morning, a random professor drops in to dance like an idiot, so they laugh at him.

I really, really wanted to use this next one, but there was no way to make it work.




BAHAHA! This just cracks me up.

"Dear Stella,

I had a simply charming time on our date. Thank you for showing me your probe. I would just love it if you would allow me the honour of taking you out again sometime.

Yours truly,
Ripp."

Nice heart stationary, Ripp. Very pretty.

Lastly, someone correctly guessed the identity of the man on whom I have based Mr. Doe. Did you notice? (Probably not.) It's in the comments for of one of the chapters. Anyway, here he is.






(Now I'm thinking that maybe he needs sideburns too, but that's probably just this photo.)

You know who he is, right? That would be Stephen P. Morrissey, formerly the singer of the very influential band, The Smiths. And now you see the connection, right?

I'm also just a big fan of his, and I think that he has an interesting look (I would say he's quite sexy as well), so I figured that he'd make some neato alien offspring, and he delivered. Morrissey is known for his solitary ways, so the character of Mr. Doe is based off that too, and it works for the story. He's also very ambiguous about his sexuality, and has been quoted as saying, "I refuse to recognize the terms hetero-, bi-, and homo-sexual. Everybody has exactly the same sexual needs. People are just sexual, the prefix is immaterial."

An interesting figure in our discussions of love and sexuality, no? I consider that to be something of a theme in this story, or at least something that I like to examine a little in writing it. The genderless aliens are all a part of that too.

And Mr. Doe made it into the outtakes! This one is a little older, but I missed it when it happened.




Time to start running.



So, there you have it. Do you have any questions, comments, critiques, or gifts of baked goods for me? (I like oatcakes.)






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[identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 11:30 am (UTC)(link)

Yeah, Mr. Doe is a sim-Morrissey. There are numerous tiny references in any chapter that involves him, if you know what to look for. I think he makes a pretty good looking sim! And he has those killer eyebrows, which set him apart from the Maxis sims. I'm glad I have those in the game now. So unique.

Jayne's pollinator was P.T. No. 14 from the multi P.T. replacement set. This one:

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I had a little problem where I removed these P.T.s temporarily, while some other alien sims were born, and even when I replaced them, Jayne no longer had any information in her family tree for the P.T., just her father. So, while I have lost my proof, I'm pretty sure it was this one, given the shape of the eyes. (I do know that it was one of the female P.T.s, since I was curious to see which gender of alien Mr. Doe ended up with, given Morrissey's statements about it all being much the same to him.)

So that means that she has recessive red hair! *grin* And you're so right about her eventually breeding. I wouldn't have put that much thought into her design for nothing. You can safely assume that all the aliens will breed with someone. That's what they're invading Sim Earth for, afterall.

Yes, I'm going to get the next chapter out as quickly as I can, but it might be the weekend before that happens. Oooooh, are you threatening me? *snicker* Something happening at the wedding? Well, I do hope that something funny happens at the wedding! Watch out for my simself... she might flirt with her son-in-law! (I hear he likes dating his mother. *snort*)

[identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
*butting in*

You can leave the PT files in, just remove the hack (telescope) that accesses them.

I had the same problem you're listing (with the family trees) when I did my first experiment using the replacement PT's.

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[identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, come on in! I don't mind at all...

I do know that now. I think it was even you who tipped me off, way back when I was setting up Strangetown. But it was already too late. I'll know that for next time. I could always linked her with InSIM, if I wanted to add those P.T.s as characters, but I'm not sure if I'll go there.

Do you know if the missing parent link does anything to the genetics? Will Jayne still have the proper recessive genetics?


[identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, I don't know about the genetics. My experiment was conducted in my old Strangetown (which is now gone).

You can go into simPE and check (and fix if it's not to your liking).
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[identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's true, isn't it? I'll have to get into SimPE a little more. I'm still a little nervous about it. But I did want to fix the Curious siblings, and check to see if Johnny and Jill have any recessive genes (I think it's very unlikely). I'm going to give them some recessives, if they don't already have them.

[identity profile] madame-ugly.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Fiddling with genetics is super easy. The hardest part is knowing what number relates to what hair/eye color (I think you can find a list on MATY).

I set up recessives on a lot of Peculiar-ites. I think I even went in and gave Percy recessive blond (from his short lived mother). But did I give recessives to the Curiouses? Hmm, might have to check that.

[identity profile] music-simbol.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
You don't have to answer if you don't want to, but have we already met the woman who will end up mothering Ripp's kid(s)? Just wondering. Don't feel pressured to answer. If you want, just say, "Moving on." That way you don't reveal whether its a yes or no. This is just to satisfy my never ending need for instant gratification. :)

Speaking of needs being met, as long as I get my dream sequence of Frances and Tank hitting the sheets, I'll be fine. Especially now that I have them in my game to due with what I please. So, write them however you want, it's your story. I'll love it no matter what. (BTW, if you plan on being up tonight, I do plan on posting the first half of my Tank/Frances drabble saga.)

So, we are going to see Jayne's kids, huh? Does that mean she's definitely with Johnny? Course there is that slight flirtation with Stella, but since she's a PT all the way, there's no room for a romantic entanglement....or is there? But, you could always just throw in a random character or whoever if she doesn't end up with Johnny.

Tomorrow's Thursday, you know. You've been pretty good about posting on Thursdays........just saying......

(And you can be sure that I'm going to be watching everyone closely at the wedding. The only drama I'll allow is between the hippie lesbian commune. Established couples will be left as is. So, your selfsim better not get any ideas!)
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[identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right. I don't think I can even answer that without revealing too much, though he has met a large number of women at this point, so maybe it wouldn't really give anything away. It would give you a number of viable options, wouldn't it? And like I said, how do you know I won't just have him get pollinated instead? It would be funnier. Either way, he might be in for heap of drama.

Okay. I won't let your interests sway my feelings on the "right" way for the story to progress. Really, it's all up to Tank. And well, there's no way I'd be able to write it to please everyone, I'm sure. Plenty of people seem like they are still hung up on the idea of Tank and Ophelia together, which I never took very seriously to begin with. I'm pretty open with plot developments, no matter how "out there" they may be, but I need to at least feel that they are likely for the characters. What would Tank Grunt do in this situation? That's the question I'm asking myself.

Yeah, you summarized the options for Jayne pretty well yourself... unless she decides to ignore the plight of the aliens entirely. But it doesn't mean she'll definitely end up with Johnny (though wouldn't their kids be odd looking? So extreme).

I would love to post a chapter tonight, but I have to be honest with you and say that this is very unlikely. This one is a bit sluggish, probably since a lot of big plot points just concluded in a sense. It's moving along better now, but I haven't made much progress for a few days. I also had to create a number of new characters and set up some new locations. *hands out hints*

I'm feeling somewhat blah and unmotivated right now, to be honest with you. Almost like I need to step back from it for a while, but I don't want to do that entirely. It's February, the worst month of the year (and no, Valentine's Day doesn't help it any), I have PMS, and I just feel a bit out of it in general. I need my motivation back. (And thank you for nudging me forward. It helps to keep moving.)

As for the wedding... My simself likes to autonomously flirt with Ripp. I'm just sayin'... be careful. :P

[identity profile] music-simbol.livejournal.com 2008-02-07 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You keep bringing up Ripp getting pollinated.........are you trying to tell me something? Course, if I was Stella, I wouldn't mind probing Ripp, but I wouldn't do it in the spaceship, I'd do it in bed. Heh heh heh.

What would Tank do? I have no freaking idea. I know what I want him to do, but will he actually do it? No idea. I had no idea Tank was so damn serious! He has no points in that category at all!! No wonder he's such a grouch!

New locations and news characters........doesn't tell me much. You could be bringing in anyone from Don Lothario to Juliet Capp, so I have no idea. But, I look forward to it!

So my unmotivated buddy is paying you a visit? I know him very well. How about this, if you post by Saturday evening, I'll be sure to get the asylum epilogue done by then too. That way we'll both get nice rewards for our work. Deal?

Random note. I dreamed about sims last night. In particular, your sims. All I can remember is that all 3 Grunt brothers were eating with Frances in his house. I think Frances and Buck got along quite well, which doesn't surprise me. I also think they were eating mac and cheese. I have no idea what was being discussed, but there you go. I wonder what this means about my subconscious?
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[identity profile] strange-tomato.livejournal.com 2008-02-08 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wanted to remind you that I have opened up other options for breeding than the one you were mentioning. Just opening up the possibility.

Yeah, Tank is the most serious man on Sim Earth. It's no wonder that he and Ripp do not see eye to eye.

Yeah, I suppose it really doesn't tell you much, but the new characters are actually original ones (though I used some Maxis "parts"), so they'll be a complete surprise.

That's a deal, motivation partner! *wink*

You had a dream about my sims? How intimate. *grin* I dream about them too sometimes. Heheh. Mac and cheese. But what does it mean...